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..i'm kind of bothered by a thread Mikey started in forums early this morning after he got off work. Now this is something he's gonna tell me to let go.. and i will try..
.. but cuz i'm a little pi55ed right noe i'm gonna post it right here..on the main updates page for everyone to see. It's not so much a big deal.. but when a gaming mag like 'GAMENOW' steals a few of Mike's screen captures without credit..maybe it kind of is (??):
(Page 81-November 2003 issue 'Game Now')
..for print in a 'HARD COPY' published magazine..without any credit..yeh.. i'm a little bothered.
Mike made those captures a long time ago from his cartoon tape,on his own machine,on his own time.. and they had been on this website for a long time..he made them for a specific purpose..especially the Donatello capture for it was involving one of his favorie artists.
The few people like that may be saying.. "So what??" ..he got pictures he made of characters that aren't his.. a cartoon show he didn't create.. on a fan website he made about characters that are not his.. the pictures are small in the magazine any way.. just 2 crappy little pictures hardly anyone will notice.
'Gamenow' prints this magazine and has tons of pictures and reviews of video games filled with characters not belonging to them. I mean..they are 'fans' too,right?? Is there a difference??
Yeh.. kinda.. it's funny.. really funny.. when you got this 'magical thing' called the 'INTERNET' ..everyone,their mother,grandmother and refridgerator repair man can steal pictures ..print them out..copy them to their hardrive..or post them on a forum..or what have you.. noone paid money for it..right..no harm is done..(i'm a fine one to talk.. i hyperlink pictures and stuff on forums all the time..noone cut me a check and noone sent me a fine).. and gee.. i guess MIKEY's TMNT is just a big fat fan site..that baisically has a couple maniacs running it.. and well there's a picture of a Ninja Turtle..so..hey.. we can steal that picture..right?? I mean Mikey's TMNT is just a big fat advertisment for the TMNT's any way..Mirage should be cutting them a check.
It doesn't f8ckin' work that way.
'GameNow' is a big magazine.. and yeh the guys that work there are 'Game Fans'.. great job.. alot of hard work..i bet!!
A job you gotta keep on your toes with.. and i'll bet a lot of hard working people work on this magazine to keep it afloat.. and times are tuff'.. they all gotta eat too.. wait.. ..wait a cotton pickin' minute..
'GAMENOW' has somethings 'Mikey's TMNT' doesn't have..
Advertisers..
*(WEB Capture!! Src:'Gamenowmag.com')
..yeah ..that Big 'JAK II' print ad in the front cover is paid for
..yeh they may review or preview the same game in the very same mag issue..they may praise it and give it an A + or they may totally think it sucks major monkey balls.. it doesn't matter..'Naughty Dog' paid 'GameNow (Ziff Davis Media Publishing)' for that ad space,Konami's TMNT Game as is on the back..Konami gives them $$ ..that money is put back in the company..that money is put in the guys that make the mag,in thier hands.. it all works that way. the 'November 2003';issue 25 vol.3 actually has 4 alternate covers each with a different Turtle image on it.. so.. the true 'Turtle Fan' will want to spend 5 bucks plus tax for each issue.even more money for the magazine company.
Just go onto the GAME NOW official website..and go see more 'paid for ads' ..selling product ..games..to you the consumer..that's how it works..
even if you don't click the ad.. it still loaded onto your hardrive and on your screen..it was still there..
$$ $$ $$ $$..
..the advertising thing is prolly more coplicated than that..but i'm fairly sure i hit the nail on the head..or at least it the nail then then miseed it and smashed my thumb.
'Mikey's TMNT' is free to guests.. you know who pays for it??
..Mikey does..i do.. the gracious fans whom helped donate thier hard earned cash ..and help us out to keep the site afloat for another year.
It's even more screwed up..i was supporting 'Game Now' and any images i took from thier site.. and copied and uploaded on Mikey's site to promote 'THEIR MAGAZINE' ..there were hyperlinks and stuff all pointing to their site and me telling you to go buy all 4 covers of their magazine.
They ain't rich..ya know.. no big fat company pays Mike to plop a banner ad anywhere on this site.. any company support i've chosen to promote on my site is strictly by choice.. i ..ME ..tOkKa..DAVE b.2 am not supported or actually affiliated with 'Kmart' or 'Mirage' or any other company what-so-ever..
Now i've dragged this thing on for quite sometime now..and frankly i don't think anyone has read past the 'GameNow' logo up there..but well it's freeking late and i actually beleive i have a point here noone is going to care about.. might as well go for broke.. i may get Mike b7tchin' at me over the phone ..but i'll take that risk.
'Paizo Publishing' a big magazine publisher owned by 'Hasbro'..(big enuff') publishes 'Star Wars Insider' a magazine to help promote the multimedia giant and household name 'Star Wars'.. George Lucas's franchise is one of the biggest known to man.. prolly just a few notches down from Disney..maybe right up there..i can't even imagine.. but if 'S.I.' can run features in it's magazine featuring fan sites based on a franchised creation not 'legally' owned by the fans.. but the fan sites little captions in the articles DO ..get a small 'source credit' ..no money is made by the fans what-so-ever.. but still it's kind of an ethical thing.. the fans support 'Star Wars'.. S.W.'s gives them a little credit in a mag seeing as how they used a fan's image in a published magazine..a PRINTED ,HARD COPY sold on news stands and everywhere for $$ to be made by Lucasfilm and Paizo/Hasbro..
..'Game Now' is not affiliated with 'Mirage Studioes Inc.' ,'4 Kids',or 'Konami'..
..but it is kind of sponsered in a way by them.. and again it is getting paid by 'Konami' and crew to support a game where the money will be made by all 3 of those companies.
..'Game Now' couldn't even give a small little tine 2 point typed image source credit to Mikey's TMNT for using the tiny little crusty images..
..they didn't ask Mike to take them.. they didn't get them from the company (Mirage or what-not).. they jsut went onto internet and nabbed them..at this point i'm guessing every single image was nabbed from fan sites..or maybe
the offical TMNT site,who knows.
Maybe there is alot of points to me typing this.. maybe there isn't..
Bottom line is.. credit..big or small was not given where it was due..it was just a matter of jumping on Google and stealing images related to Ninja Turtles..
What if i took the 'GameNow' logo.. (cool logo) scanned it in.. tweaked in photoshop.. got some screen t-shirt iron-on paper to run thru' my dot-matrix printer.. made a bunch of T-shirts with Game Now's logo on it..and took them onto ebay or to the flea-market and 'SOLD THEM' ..maybe even claim i made the logo (i made the T-shirts,would make sence if i said i made the logo right??
.. and maybe i just pocket any monies i make off the t-shirts and keep it for myself.. and go buy malt liquor or somthing.. would that be ok??
F7ck no!!
..i guess we all kinda loose huh,on this end.. i have to come to 'STALE-mate' after all this..huh.. ok fine.
But i find it pretty dammed weird.. my best friend in the whole world. who put alot of blood sweat into a 'fan' site about characters that 'legally' may not be his.. but in the fact that he spent alot of money.. and aside from that.. he spent alot of time,creative effort, and his own know how..for quite a few years too.. (Mikey's been goin' on for over 5 years now)..his own collections..his own passion..for something he loves truly ,with a passion.. and an open heart to let all his friends come in and join in his website and have some fun..creativly,to read a fanfiction about Ninja Turtles, share an illustration or Flash project for school related to Splinter, or just to come on and say hi..or even get a little moral support..'MikeysTMNT' is alot of things.. and that's why i'm here..it's alot to me too.. and over the past year..i've pumed alot of my own blood,sweat and tears.. and $$ to help keep this thing going.. and so have the other fans.. and i'm not about to stop anytime soon..
People have had problems with me over the years.. and i've had alot of medical issues that keep me on alot of people's toes.. but I TOO AM A TMNT FAN..a Mirage Fan.. ..i grew up with this stuff too.. it moved me too!! It inspires me too..it gave me good memories too and still moves me to create..and helps me create new ones..
AND here.. my best friend built this damm,silly little website from the ground up.. and Mikey..who is so f7ckin' in debt as it is.. is worried about giving money to the same company that stole his images so he can get all '4' variant covers..what's worse..is that i've offered to buy them for him. In fact the only way i'm able to even prove all this right now.. is cuz i bought the Hard Copy myself with my own 5 bucks.. Gah,kill me!!
Whatever.. it's almost 5 A.M. here and i was supposed to be working on my own 'Non-TMNT' layout but well.. this all just came about..
Here's GameNow's online TMNT article ..if you made it this far.. hope you still like reading it..(it's a great mag..i don't deny that..really sleek and good lookin'content..)
..maybe i could consider all this a small amount of payback..for all the good it will do and i know i'm a hypocrit.. it's not gonna matter a hill of horse sh3t tommorow night but at least the record..somewhere.. cuz I PAYED FOR IT ..the record is clear..:: GAMENOW stole those images!!
..and i guess there's only this thing here.. to post like this..that's all i can do about it..about ethics..and just due credit about something so silly..
..ok..fine it's silly..
..tOkK go beddy-by.. bye bye..maybe while i'm asleep someone will go steal
my images and publish them.. and make some $$ for themselves ..
..>v<
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